[ Ben's life circumstances the past year or so, have turned him into an observant guy. He can see Krouse gradually relaxing, he doesn't think it's to his credit at all, it's just normal, people can't be tense all the time, and doing something familiar is usually comforting. ]

That's good, I think— I'm more of a trivia guy.

I think it's my turn.

[ He takes his own cue, looking at the table as he does. ]

Do you like following all the rules? Because I don't think I remember them all.

[ He could probably remember them if he tried, but he doesn't think it matters unless it matters to Krouse. ]